Also in the article was the "50/50" chance of the Dow getting to 17000 in the two years which got ripped up pretty good in the comments because essentially just about any conceivable outcome has a 50/50 chance of happening.
Either the Dow will go to 15000 or 17000 on the timeline suggested or it won't but I would point out a couple of issues with this type of study. I believe in understanding how cycles tend to work because there are tendencies that often repeat. Often does not mean always but there is something to it. However I can't see the utility in incorporating stock market results from the 1870s and 1880s when twine and cotton companies were the market leaders.
I don't know at what point exactly that historical data is useful for these purposes but at a minimum if the year has a one and an eight in front of it, I don't think there is any relevance whatsoever. Obviously if you disagree then you might give the cover story more credence.
The other issue I would raise is the extent to which the argument presented pays no heed to fundamental current events. I am not making a bearish argument here (I'm not making a bullish one either), simply pointing out that any investment case, even a broad one, should take into account the current fundamental environment. To me this equates to buying a stock solely for the valuation with no heed to the state of the industry. I imagine the TV stocks were all very cheap at one point (there was a TV stock mania in the 1950s).
I did like the Bruce Lee reference in the title though.
Finally some fire department business. In order for Walker Fire to keep up with how the fire industry is evolving we had to buy a vehicle for fighting structure fires. Our previous orientation had just been wildland in terms of our vehicles and our training. This is changing. We have nine firefighters going through structure training over the next few weeks and the truck pictured will be Engine 86 once it is fully stocked.Engine 86 is a 1986 International that we bought from out of state and it is in fantastic shape (no rust coming from back east) with very low mileage. It was obviously babied and given that we had to do something we really lucked out. The new truck will play a huge role for us.
You probably know where I am going with this. The truck cost $30,000 and we have allocated $10,000 more for stocking the truck with hose, nozzles and other equipment. In the past, blog readers have been very generous toward the department for large capital outlays like this and I hope that will be the case again.
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Thanks for your tireless dedication to sharing your thoughts with us.
Very cool Jeff, thank you!
I tend to agree with you, but I dont think the historical reference makes sense, especially considering (in my opinon) that stock market valuations and price levels have a lot to do with over/under ownership of stocks (fund flows). That funds flow to investment that have produced good total returns and from ones that have performed worse, giving the market a medium term memory and dependency. Historically this is especially important to avoid large "permanent" drawdowns.
Thanks for posting
Roger, I'm curious why your truck didn't come equipped with hoses, nozzles, and other equipment. Are those things generally kept by the seller for use on their new vehicle?
back from hiking
anon 7:40,
It is typical that a used truck come with nothing, however they actually did give us quite a lot; a few nozzles, some hose and turnout gear.
we actually need almost a 1/4 of a mile of hose on their and we'll need to buy most of that.
Man, it's amazing how equipment like this holds value. I wonder what it cost new?
The other interesting thing to me ( as someone who grew up on a farm) is the difference between International pickups and large trucks. Their pickups never sold well, mostly because they were crap. Really bad crap. But their larger trucks (like the single axle straight truck your firetruck was built on) were always reliable and well-built. That thing looks in great shape for an '86 model.
SD,
New Type 1 Engines are well into the six figure range.
Regarding your Thursday post on PERM, I think it is better than the Cuggino's as it will not have a large cash position. But, it is worse as it does not hold true to Swiss Franc investments, etc. And Cuggino's managed fees are not that much more than the ETFs all things considered.
I admit to being prejudiced, but the work I did a couple of years ago on a self-directted Permanent Portfolio using ETFs appears to stand up well to both PERM and the Cuggino mutual fund. For an amateur......
T
T,
correct me if this is wrong but Harry Browne made no mention of Swiss francs, that is just Cuggino's spin on the Browne concept...
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